[ It's strange. This talk of warts and differences. It proves that she still has a lot of things to learn. A lot of things for Matt and maybe Frank now to teach her. He folds up the magazine, this must be a serious thing.
She's noticed that Matt other adults do things like this when something is important. ]
Understanding? He understands you even if you've done---bad things?
[ Is she asking for herself or for Frank? Matt has pieced things together, she knows. They have never said out loud what she was made for, even if they both know. ]
[Perhaps going at it with the idiom was not the best action. Oh well. At least they're talking. She is the kind of kid that you can practically see them thinking and working through what you're saying. The conversation might come to a close, though she'll think on it, remember it and bring it up at a later time. No wonder she's trouble.]
Yes. See, he believes in forgiveness, in the way that people can change and be better than their bad habits.
[Which is the antithesis of Frank Castle. No mercy. No forgiveness.]
[ Maybe not. She's still learning about those and that they don't always mean what they say they do. Or they mean different things. It's confusing. Matt might say she is trouble for a different reason.
Like how she manages to sneak sweets despite him. ]
I do not think that is always true.
[ That people can be different. Not just directed at herself. At others. ]
Not all bad people can do anything but be bad. It is the way they are.
Yeah, that's my thoughts too. For Matt he doesn't think of it as putting a sick animal down. He believes in putting people like that in jail, safe away from other people.
[Hard to keep the humor of that out of his voice. It's a dumb as hell reasoning. Evil exists then, and it will spread in the prison system. Best just to wipe them out. Totally.]
And before they're locked away he wants them to stand in a court of law and have them judged by peers. Not just him making the call. Keeping it fair and a group decision, like.
If they are not breathing then they are safe from other people.
[ These are things she would not say around Matt. It would make his heart hurt, she thinks. Her mouth purses as she thinks and mulls over what Frank is explaining. ]
I think---I think that he has not ever had to be in the place to have to do killing. [ Close? Of course. Many times. ] It is a bad place to be.
That is a conclusion you made all by yourself. I just want to be sure you're aware of that as you speak it.
[And if she parrots it to Matt, holy shit. Though he has the feeling that here and now they are speaking as equals. They both care about Matt Murdock. They both know they are not of the same spirit or kind as he. And as much as they care about him, they know that there is a disparity in morals.]
It's a hard place to be in. And it is bad. I don't want him to have to go there if he doesn't have to, no matter how much I disagree.
I know. [ There are some things she may never speak to Matt about. This is likely one of those things. ] There were people where I came from. They hurt me.
[ Not just her. Her friends. The other kids. The nurses.
It feels different to be able to speak to Frank like this. To be honest with him like this. She knows Matt does not begrudge their differences but he may not understand them no matter what happens. ]
I do not want him to have to be in that place either.
[For as much as Frank understands, Laura is a girl that has been through trauma a girl her age should not go through. She is someone's child, someone's out there that betrayed that trust and truth that children should be protected.
Someone should have protected his children. Someone should have protected Laura. At least now Matt is here for her.]
A day will come when all of that will feel differently than it does now. It makes you scared and still hurts. It will get better. You got through it.
[He says this because he has an obligation to tell a child she won't be like him. Frank is his own kind. He was always this way. There is hope for Laura. He really believes this because he's seen of how she is calm and gentle with Matt, how they are growing closer and closer together all the time. It really must have been hell because she's learned to tie her shoes and read. She sits up straight when a car up the street is too loud. Cop shows make her anxious even though they're just shows.]
No, I don't either. He doesn't need to understand first hand.
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She's noticed that Matt other adults do things like this when something is important. ]
Understanding? He understands you even if you've done---bad things?
[ Is she asking for herself or for Frank? Matt has pieced things together, she knows. They have never said out loud what she was made for, even if they both know. ]
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Yes. See, he believes in forgiveness, in the way that people can change and be better than their bad habits.
[Which is the antithesis of Frank Castle. No mercy. No forgiveness.]
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Like how she manages to sneak sweets despite him. ]
I do not think that is always true.
[ That people can be different. Not just directed at herself. At others. ]
Not all bad people can do anything but be bad. It is the way they are.
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[Hard to keep the humor of that out of his voice. It's a dumb as hell reasoning. Evil exists then, and it will spread in the prison system. Best just to wipe them out. Totally.]
And before they're locked away he wants them to stand in a court of law and have them judged by peers. Not just him making the call. Keeping it fair and a group decision, like.
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[ These are things she would not say around Matt. It would make his heart hurt, she thinks. Her mouth purses as she thinks and mulls over what Frank is explaining. ]
I think---I think that he has not ever had to be in the place to have to do killing. [ Close? Of course. Many times. ] It is a bad place to be.
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[And if she parrots it to Matt, holy shit. Though he has the feeling that here and now they are speaking as equals. They both care about Matt Murdock. They both know they are not of the same spirit or kind as he. And as much as they care about him, they know that there is a disparity in morals.]
It's a hard place to be in. And it is bad. I don't want him to have to go there if he doesn't have to, no matter how much I disagree.
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[ Not just her. Her friends. The other kids. The nurses.
It feels different to be able to speak to Frank like this. To be honest with him like this. She knows Matt does not begrudge their differences but he may not understand them no matter what happens. ]
I do not want him to have to be in that place either.
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Someone should have protected his children. Someone should have protected Laura. At least now Matt is here for her.]
A day will come when all of that will feel differently than it does now. It makes you scared and still hurts. It will get better. You got through it.
[He says this because he has an obligation to tell a child she won't be like him. Frank is his own kind. He was always this way. There is hope for Laura. He really believes this because he's seen of how she is calm and gentle with Matt, how they are growing closer and closer together all the time. It really must have been hell because she's learned to tie her shoes and read. She sits up straight when a car up the street is too loud. Cop shows make her anxious even though they're just shows.]
No, I don't either. He doesn't need to understand first hand.